'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks. The Spirit also works with unbelievers, such as atheists and agnostics, so that they might find salvation by loving their neighbor, and thereby may implicitly know and love God. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. That's it? Same here but for a different reason. Required fields are marked *. Tim addresses Taylor Marshall's spurious attack on FSSP/ICKSP's recent communique (to the Vatican about Traditionis Custodes) as a "cave in.". Its an important intellectual matter and it merits dispassionate debate. [10][11], Marshall has published books in the fields of theology, philosophy, and historical fiction. Now, back to what Taylor Marshall said: this statement bothers me more, I think its more heretical, more grievous than anything in Amoris Laetitia. . Irrelevant. He judges the Supreme Pontiff to be guilty of teaching heresy on multiple serious points of doctrine. Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall. All of us, me included. Show me where I called you a single name. Timothy had tweeted earlier in the day on April 13th, at 4:34 PM and 5:33 PM: Regarding@TaylorRMarshall: Im happy to chat, do a show, slap high fives and come together about the (majority) stuff we agree on OR do a civil show about the (minority) stuff we disagree on. Wherever it leads. Walther accused Marshall of "distorting or simply lying" about the pope in order to anger Catholics. T his is part 1 of a three part series on the three visions given by Our Lady of Fatima. But the debate should be: a) not avoided and b) CIVIL[.] This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. any waypublic or privateto reconcile with TM is good. God forgive me for anything negative or incorrect that I have ever said about the SSPX. Marshall also formerly served as the assistant director of the Archdiocese of Washington's Catholic Information Center. Im saying that formal adherence to schismatic acts is a grave peril of attending the SSPX. (11:39 PM), God bless FSSP! I was being snubbed. Lets take this offline and chat by phone later, yes? [21] Marshall, on his YouTube channel, regularly comments on statements from Vigan. (4-14-20, 5:01 PM), Im fine. So Taylor Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of teaching multiple heresies. I ask everyone to pray for all parties involved. ], Im not a grudge holder. Care to say more than a drive-by insult, Fr Khouri? Any position whatever on this topic cannot be heresy, as the Magisterium has not infallibly defined the answer. Distinctions matter[.] Catholics become schismatics when they reject the Pope as Teacher and Shepherd, when they reject his authority over doctrine and discipline. Ron I know under Canon law the pope can resign, but does The conclave then examine the resignation to see if it meets Canon law and was freely done? I said nothing about you or your family on here and never would! The largest imaginablepublic detraction w/ extremely sensitive private info you had as a family friend. It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me[.] Kelly. Dwight Longenecker tweeted similarly: When Catholics set themselves up to judge and condemn popes and bishops its not long before they are judging and condemning one another. This critique hinges on the implicit denial of Catholic doctrine and prudence: dismissal of the conspiracy because it is a conspiracy. The other hypocrisy here is that Marshall said no one may judge the Pope, and they he says, to the Pope, You are wrong on a long series of subjects. Whats obtuse is a hermeneutic of intentionalism instead of a hermeneutic of textualism, Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. Hypocrite. You may not prefer your own understanding of the Faith over the teaching of the Papal Magisterium. * What Saint Bellarmine really said about Popes and Heresy. Wow. (. Of course, some so-called religions have no substantial good in them. Gotta be two-sided though. Reactionary Trads or Catholic Radical Reactionaries believe the following: * 1. (9:58 PM), Lefebvre voted for EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. Most are errors that Pope Francis does not teach. (10:21 AM), Honestly: All I care about is the truth. They acted like old buddies and intellectual "colleagues." Two laymen with a youtube channel, spreading the news about the Pachamama dunker guy, etc. Ill do it anytime. But youre not understanding that conciliar documents need to be interpreted under the construction most optimally faithful to Tradition, wherever possible. Interesting timing all around, that folks would start putting up this pro SSPX content just before Voris's story. (12:25 PM), JP2 indeed spread a false ecumenism but wasnt trying to kill the TLM entirely. We should be afraid were we to fail to work fraternally to walk together in life.. Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. (. The original story was that he was apparently leaving to focus on his own podcast series or something like it and that it was a relatively amicable departure. I used to watch Dr. Taylor Marshall, a Catholic theologian and blogger, quite a bit and he used to do these podcasts with fellow Catholic theologian Timothy J. Gordon. I was being snubbed. For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. Marshall is not super tactful and has got into fights with his former friends over it. Ego kills. Its intellectual. Civil discussion is whats needed and you wont even respond to me, privately or publicly. On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. Taylor Marshall was a Catholic for 13 years. You are wrong on all of these things. We bring that up over and over on TNT. But Trads have flatly misunderstood religious freedom in Dignitatis: read Leo XIIIs IMMORTALE DEI 36, which Trads reject Dave and I agree 100%about Dignitatis[.] (3) And this teaching, which is also a Law of the Church: The First See is judged by no one (Canon 1404). Theres always room to come@back together. . He is putting himself above the Pope, to judge his teachings to be gravely erroneous. Cuz the Church wont clarify. Of course I have sounded the alarm on Joseph Shaw, too. He threw all 'boomers' under the bus and not all of them drank the V2 koolaid. [2] He is a founder of the New Saint Thomas Institute, an online Catholic theology educational program, and the Troops of Saint George, a Catholic scouting organization. What theyre talking about hereis formal heresy.. Self-described feminist singer Paula Cole had a hit single in 1996 titled Where Have All the Cowboys Gone, in which she bemoaned the dearth of real men (Where is my John Wayne; where is my prairie song; where is my happy ending; where have all the cowboys gone?). Wow! NOT TOO LATE! And most of these people think youre scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. He did so in defense of a joint letter about the popes Motu proprio, Traditionis Custodes, from The Superiors General of the Fraternity of St Peter (FSSP), the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (ICKSP), the Institute of the Good Shepherd, and a number of other Superiors General of priestly institutes and religious communities attached to the Traditional Mass (including three communities of women). All the while, Marshall continues to receive Communion, despite rejecting the Roman Pontiff. (4-13-20, 12:16 AM). But we are fallen sinners, and God is merciful. This statement is posted on the FSSP website, and on Shaws own website. Unfortunately, we have a number of chieftains, some with significant egos; and no William Wallace. I just dont want this dragging out in public. Without them we would be without the Sacraments. Timothys brother David (words in purple below) apparently started the current controversy with this tweet: This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. Thats the problem. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daveamarshall-vs-timothy-gordon-michael-voris.html, https://wdtprs.com/2020/04/ask-father-whats-the-truth-about-the-sspx/, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Tons of defamatory theories swirling about my motives and about the TnT breakup itself (which Marshall is conspicuously failing to correct). Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. However, around Easter of 2020 (during the pandemic), I found a bunch of people suddenly debating each other in Catholic . Look where it got them. [26] Traditionalist Catholic writer Matthew Walther criticized both Marshall's advocacy for then-President Trump and his claims against Pope Francis. (3:17 PM), Imagine being me in this situation. He injects these fascinating interviews with his own distinctive blend of depth and levity. This is a contemptible accusation, which reveals Marshall to be, as I expressed it on Twitter, an ignorant fool. Brothers squabbling a bit is the inevitable cost of abandonment by our spiritual fathers; all of us have various talents, but none of us have authority to pronounce on theological questions. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Im arguing that they failed by not clearly articulating their modernism[.] College of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More, Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign, "The Secret Society of Priests Who Hate Pope Francis", "Not All Evangelicals and Catholics Together", "Why it's harder to become a Catholic than a Protestant", "New priests ordained, church buildings blessed", "Why Won't The New Saint Thomas Institute Respond To Their Customers? They put their faith in strong men. Are they clarifying or scarifying? I would never frag ya[.] You are wrong on divorce and remarriage, and absolution and Communion for people living in objective sin. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. erred by receiving the Eucharist from the SSPX on Easter; regular parishes are widely shuttered and there was no other possibility of receiving the Holy Eucharist. This shouldnt be engaged in public. Canon 1364, n. 1: an apostate from the faith, a heretic, or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication. I have been sounding the alarm on him since my article, Reactionary Infiltration of Taylor Marshalls Book, Infiltration (5-30-19), and many critiques since that time. Weve said this over and over on TnT (TnT is his video series with Timothy Gordon.) Mind your business Steve [Skojec]. I love dialogue; I care about Taylor; most of all, I love the truth. This situation is one to watch. Yes, Dave and I disagree on stuff. But at first disagreement (my critical review of his book, Infiltration) I was immediately banned from his Twitter page and have been the fodder for his (rather juvenile and petty) insults ever since. For context, here is one of the podcasts they did a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. Or admit that you have fallen into grave sin out of pride in the brightness of your own thoughts. Marshall goes on to make the judgment that Pope Francis has taught heresy and grave error, contrary to dogma. It is not submission to acknowledge that Pope Francis is the Pope. And that he committed a severe public detraction of Tim. [3][4] Marshall had previously served as a youth minister at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church while an Episcopal deacon. Then, given our sinfulness and brokenness, God positively wills that there be other religions, such as the Christian denominations, present-day Judaism, and moderate peaceful Islam, so as to bring more souls to Him. I think Fr Khouri might have been implying that few if any Christian Apologists are making their living by tent-making these days ,Patrick. I know so many people here in town who have been touched by him and drawn to Tradition. It becomes like the infighting of pope-less Eastern Orthodoxy. Its destructive and wrong. Now, recall (above) when Taylor Marshall said that if you accuse the Pope of heresy you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. Well, he is accusing the Pope of heresy, so he is not in communion with him. Then the penalty for heresy and schism is automatic excommunication. I must admit to my own biases in that I don't trust converts, especially those making $$$ off the church's controversies. (4-14-20, 4:56 PM), I dont think you get it. Tim appeared regularly on Marshall's YouTube show until early 2020, with the pair calling themselves TNT - Taylor and Tim. (9:16 PM), My sole issue with his Easter tweet was that he retracted his previous due criticisms of the SSPX, which I worried would nudge many of the faithful to attend SSPX liturgy, which would endanger the less-educated in the Faith, since they will more readily succumb to therebellious mindset of the Society towards VC II and towards the Novus Ordo, a mindset that is condemned by the Church. I dont care about the business model. Outward unity among the reactionaries has been fairly solid, since all alike detest and despise the pope (my enemys enemy is my friend.). Not gonna tweet anymore on this, Agreed. (3:43 PM), The point of departure was NOT receiving Communionwhich is licit all things consideredbut the apology for not just inaccurate statements about SSPX (which is great!) And he makes this absolutely clear later in the video: Marshall: Its like Paul in Galatians, he could resist Peter to his face, but he couldnt depose Peter. Ego kills. You are just another false prophet. Posted on Friday, October 5, 2018. (2:04 PM), I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid! (2:14 PM), Just tried calling you. (3:04 PM), Nobody wants the Catholic infighting, Taylor. Lets take this offline, bro. Im always in need of more funds: especially. "Dr. Taylor Marshall's The Eternal City takes the reader deep into the Catholic origins of the Apostolic Faith." - Bishop James Conley, D.D., S.T.L. (9:50 PM), Clarify where correct; apologize where incorrect. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up. Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. Many of you are followers of Dr. Taylor Marshall's podcast series on YouTube, and are familiar with Tim Gordon, who co-hosted with Marshall for the . Now its happening to the one who was his partner. Discussion in 'Coffee House' started by torrentum, Apr 16, 2020. Husband, and Father to 8 children. He was acting as a good father. It is not that God wishes many persons to be in religions which lack the fullness of truth. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. The basic trouble with going far right on the ecclesiastical spectrum: radical right; radical Catholic reactionary, is how far right does one go? (4-13-20, 12:52 PM), I reached out to [Timothy Gordon] this morning, actually. Check out some of their funniest moments. And since this gift is of prevenient grace, it admits of no exception. Too many apologists are gurus with groupies. As they go through the seven accusations, Marshall and Gordon essentially assume that Francis does teach these seven alleged errors. Marshall then goes on to say that God just wills the Catholic religion. I cant do UNITY alone. Well have to wait and see what side other big shots in the reactionary world (e.g., Many lesser-known Marshall fans & followers, ICKSP (which now runs the parish I attended in Detroit for 25 years), The Tabernacle: Egyptian & Near Eastern Precursors. There are two hawks in LaBelle. Marshall: "I look at this and I say: You are wrong on Luther. Catholic Doctrine and the Sunday Readings for March 2023, Please Welcome Our Speaker for Tonight Mrs. Shock horror. Marshall: I honestly think that the safest position is this is the Pope we have right now. (9:16 PM), Also for the record, Ive never been certain why Taylor opted for non-renewal during the peak of TNT popularity. FOR THE RECORD: HE ENDED TNT. With so many apologists, all scrambling to act as conference speakers or experts which ones do you trust? (4:38 PM), People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. He was acting as a good father. Very sad. And JP2 was FAR more modernist than he acknowledges, but the point is that Daves tweet to Taylor was 100.0000% civil. The answer always insinuates formal adherence to schism. NOT TOO LATE! Meaning inheres in text, not intention. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable[.] Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. It's kind of disappointing to see two allies argue like this. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! And now at each others throats, acting like enemies, over one difference of opinion? I think it comes dangerously close. I resist him to his face.. For my part in some irreverent jesting in the wake of this spat, Im sorry. Marshall has been openly critical of Bishop Robert Barron's promotion of the Balthasarian thesis of the possibility of universal salvation. My Episode 71 interview with Rev. Pope Francis taught the view of conservative theologians that God merely permits a plurality of religions. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. That was the emotionally charged testimony of a 26-year-old woman, in the jury trial of 34-year-old Timothy J. Gordon, who is charged with two felony counts of aggravated sexual abuse, for two. You are wrong on divorce and remarriage, and absolution and Communion for people living in objective sin. They do not teach the love of God, nor the love of neighbor. What would a resurrection of men look like? On 8 September 2021, Shaw wrote on his Twitter page: It is high time that everyone realised that Taylor Marshall has no understanding of any of the issues he talks about. For Bishop Barron to refuse a debate with Dr. Taylor Marshall, simply on the grounds that Marshall wrote Infiltration, not only substantiates Marshall's argument that the hierarchy in the Church has been infiltrated, but also furthers a narrative of what I call the Episcopal Leviathan. PS: this isnt a big deal. My brand CANT be damaged by defending the ONE HOLY CHURCH against outsiders who claim my Sunday obligation isnt fulfilled if I attend novus. How this crisis manifests itself in the disappointing behavior of so many priests, bishops, and cardinals. And he states this again, more specifically later in the video. Acta non verba. And most of these people think you're scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. The Twitter page for the latter (Im banned there but have seen a screenshot), proclaimed on 8 September: Marshall is a grifter with nothing to lose.. Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). But the debate should be: a) not avoided and b) CIVIL, Nobody wants the Catholic infighting, Taylor. At the same time, Church Militant/Michael Voris is doing an expose on alleged pedophile coverups in the SSPX. We are grateful to Taylor Marshall, and his work. [6] In 2009 Marshall earned his Master of Arts degree in philosophy, and in 2011 earned a Doctor of Philosophy degree in philosophy, at the University of Dallas. All else is minutiae[.] You can disagree with Taylor, but to attack him by saying he has no understanding of any of the issues he talks about is just ridiculous. [29][30], With the exception of Infiltration, Marshall's books are self-published under the imprint of Saint John Press and Media, a company held and managed by Marshall.[13][14]. Podcaster and YouTuber. I enjoy and respect them both. They were married on June 9, 2001, at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Fort Worth, Texas. (3:18 PM), Completely unacceptable, Taylor. Everyone KNOWS what the modernists were trying to do. Imagine being me in this situation. He exalted himself above the Pope, rather than humbling himself before Christ. I recognize Pope Francis as the Pope. Get over it. Steven OReilly made the obvious point in a tweet underneath Timothy Gordons (4-13-20, 5:20 PM): The problem is, in order to unite the clans, as in the analogy, a William Wallace is needed. (If recent history is a guide, I wont get a reply. Sorry Gordons, but this seems to be the only way. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn. And when Marshall says more hereticalthan anything in Amoris Laetitia, he implies a further accusation, that Amoris Laetitia contains heresy. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn[.] To all those who believed that I was criticizing his/his familys reception of the Eucharist from the SSPX rather than the implicit invitation for the less-educated faithful to frequent SSPX liturgy, note this was not my intention. 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